Showing posts with label Ecuador Visa. Show all posts
Showing posts with label Ecuador Visa. Show all posts

Saturday, January 24, 2015

MORE rain, NEW friends, WALK along the river.

We've been busy this past week and it looks like more of the same next week. We have enjoyed meeting several new couples, some closer to making a decision on whether & where to move, some a few years out but on the same exploratory trip.

We've continue doing a lot of walking, at least for us. We aren't up to the 10k steps a day mark but doing way more than we did during our RV ife in the US. It feels good and having such a great city to walk in as well as several beautiful rivers to walk along, definitely helps.

So here's a synopsis of our week. We started out by meeting up with new friends, Heidi and Steve (Risa and Jerry on Facebook). We had lunch at Don Colon's and really enjoyed our time with them. They were supposed to meet other expat friends, Stephen and Nancy, at Tutto Fredo at two. Well, a few minutes after, Nancy and Steve show up at Don Colon. They knew where to find them. Great folks, still probably a year or two away from making any major changes.

We took off walking, made a bank deposit, walked some more, and I just had to snap this shot - gorgeous sunny day.


Then we decided to stop for ice cream... Ice cream (helado) is very popular here but we haven't indulged very often. We recently found La Fornace and tried the ice cream there. Our favorite is Malaga or Rum Raisin. It's sort of like butter pecan with sweet raisins in place of the pecans.

Oh, did I mention that it cost $1 each (cone or cup)?
We continued walking, deciding we needed a cup of coffee, we stopped at a little cafe we had passed before (the coffee smell was delicious) but never tried. Well, the coffee was wonderful, the price good at $1 (as most places are) and it was a good spot to wait out the torrential rain that arrived.

 

We were close to our bus stop and as we waited we noticed this adorable little firefighter costume in the shop across the street. Sorry the pic is so blurry!


Two days later we met up with another couple who were from Colorado Springs, John and Chris. We met at Fabiano's and spent more then five hours chatting, then made plans to meet at Popacuchu next week. Wonderful couple who have spent the last two+ months visiting the coast - we even discovered some mutual friends. They visited our apartment the next morning and we chatted for two hours...needless to say, we really hope they choose Cuenca when they make the final move. Of course, so do all the folks on the coast that they've met. LOL!


After they left, went for a walk up Ordoñez Lazo. We walked up to a local coffee shop that we had heard about, Coffee Brown. We will be back for sure. The food was DELICIOUS and the coffee was good. I had a turkey with passionfruit sandwich (the bread was amazing, not at all dry) and Stu had a chicken salad pita sandwich. While we were there, our visa facilitator, Maite Duran, dropped in and joined us. We had a wonderful chat. Oh, almost forgot to take the food photos. We will be back....


Headed back home, we opted for a walk along the river. It was a nice, sunny day and I grabbed a few shots of the turbulant water, churning from all the recent rains.


Remember we mentioned how big the trees are along the rivers?

I even shot a video of the lady washing her clothes as well as one of the rushing river. Hope these links work, just click the photo and you should be taken to our SmugMug gallery to see the videos. The clothes washing is the first one, the river is the second.

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Ahhh, the grand adventure continues. Life is good!

Monday, December 1, 2014

Thanksgiving gone, Christmas coming!

We just finished our first week off after two weeks of Spanish classes and we have mostly vegged out. Stu did meet with the US Consulate from Guayaquil last Monday when they came to Cuenca. He needed to renew his passport so we won't get caught trying to come/go with less than 6 months on it. They said it would take about two weeks, maybe a little longer due to the Thanksgiving holiday in the US. How's THAT for service. He will need to travel to Guayaquil to pick it up and get the old one punched. Then he will need to get his Visa stamps moved into the new one.

We had a delightful Thanksgiving day with friends, eating out at a local eatery and having a traditional Thanksgiving day dinner. We didn't take any photos but our friend Al did and you can see them on his blog. He is a professional photographer so I will honor that and not post them here.

We have gone out shopping a couple of times and the local stores are getting all dolled up for Christmas. Here are a few shots I snapped with my old iPhone.


Here is our current contribution to the holidays....Hedgie sits outside our front door on one of the benches Stu painted. Stu also made his little sign. Isn't he adorable?


While at the big mall, Mall del Rio, we also stopped to peek at the puppies at the pet shop in the mall and saw this adorable little guy. Can you saw Awww....


The kiosk vendors change often at the malls but we were really suprised to see this one peddling ice cream products and desserts. Hmmm....


Now, it you are at all squeamish - STOP READING NOW!

That said, we still aren't feeling 100% since arriving back and diving into Spanish classes. Nothing specific, just low energy and motivation for the most part. We blamed it on the altitude, then I got a real 24 hr tummy bug and we started to talk about the possibility of having parasites.

One of the downsides of living here is just that - parasites and amoebas. We have been careful, not eating from the street food vendors, not eating in restaurants recommended by others and avoiding salads (lettuce) completely. We also soak/wash all fruits and vegetables in a water/vinegar mix before eating.

We know that most locals and many expats take medication twice a year, whether they have been tested for parasites or not. Well, we decided it was time for us to do the same. We followed the advice in this post from Bryan Haines, GringosAbroad host. Since I was already dealing with issues, I postponed taking mine for a day, but Stu started yesterday. He's had no side effects other than some additional fatigue. I take my second dose tomorrow. We hope that by week's end we'll be feeling more like ourselves.

Monday, June 16, 2014

Ecuador Visa Requirements

We often get asked about the Visa requirements for visiting and for moving to Ecuador. What I post here is accurate RIGHT NOW. That doesn't mean it will be accurate tomorrow. Change is inevitable, sometimes hourly it seems and sometimes up to the discretion of the official (office) you are dealing with.

First, if you want to visit Ecuador you will be automatically granted a 90 day tourist visa upon entry into the country with a US passport. This is good for one year...in other words, if you enter the country on March 13th, your year starts that day and you can spend up to 90 days in the country between that date and March 12th the following year. Simple, easy and FREE!
  • Your passport must be valid for at least 6 months beyond your travel dates. 
  • A round/onward trip ticket is needed to prove the length of your stay. 
If you wish to live in Ecuador as a resident immigrant, there are several visas available to choose from. The full list is here, below are the most commonly used ones that we have heard about.
  • Pensioner Visa (Foreign Pension) 9-I
    Requires a minimum income of $800 (for life), each dependent requires an additional $100 per month income
     
  • Investor Visa 9-II or 9-III
    Multiple ways to invest, tightly restricted, minimum $25k investment
     
  • Professional Visa 9-V
    Requires graduation from a 4 year degree program from a certified college or university. There is a list of those already registered with Ecuador but if yours isn't on the list, it doesn't mean you are excluded. In addition, you do NOT have to plan to work in Ecuador for this visa to be valid. It does take longer to get than the above visas. Click here to download the list of accepted universities as of April 2013.
We opted to each get a pensioner visa, it cost us more because there was more paperwork go be notarized/apostiled, then translated and apostiled again. Plus the visa fee was double ($700 for two, $350 for one). But if something were to happen to one of us, the other still has residency without having to start the paperwork over again.

There is one caveat to the immigrant visa. We are restricted to being out of country 90 days in any given year. Our anniversary date is the date we entered the country, December 12th. So we have 90 days between then and this coming December 11th.

In our 3-5th years the requirement changes but we are still unclear as to what it changes to...we have heard 18 months over the three years, 180 days over the three years and even 18 months a year. We will see what it is when we make it to year three. For now, we carefully count our days out of country to be sure we don't exceed the 90 days.
{NOTE: November 2014- Per an immigration lawyer, Immigration Law Article 36 states that it is 18 months MAX before you must return to Ecuador.}

What happens if we do? We have to start the visa process all over again, including paying the fees again! Nope, not gonna do that.

So, you want to get a visa. How do you start? The first thing is to get certified copies of your birth certificate, current marriage license and any name change documents. For those of us women who married and then were divorced or widowed, that means more paperwork UNLESS you never changed from your maiden name. (Note: women in Ecuador don't change their names.)

We were told I only needed the birth and most recent marriage but since the marriage certificate showed a different name from the birth certificate, we decided to err on the side of caution and I got everything.

You will also need an official letter showing your documented pension/social security income. We went to our local office, told her what we needed. We could not use the form you can print out from the internet. The clerk printed out the document from her printer, then stamped and signed it (a critical step).

We also needed a criminal background check for the last five years of residence. We got ours online from TBI (Tennessee Bureau of Investigation). That sufficed although since then we have heard the local Cuenca office is required an FBI check which requires fingerprinting. The document is also time sensitive, typically no more than a month old from your application date.
{NOTE: DECEMBER 2014: Latest news, ALL Ecuador immigration offices will soon be requiring an FBI report AND a state report. They will no longer accept a local report.}

Suffice it to say, this is a much easier process to start while still in the US. If you are already in Ecuador and need a document from the US, it becomes an expensive process and one that requires a contact to receive the document and then send it to be apostiled before sending it to you in Ecuador.

Many people complete the whole process without assistance, even without being fluent in Spanish. This is obviously the most economical way. You bring your documents with you from the US, get them translated and apostiled in Ecuador, present the whole packet (including copies of your passport pages and passport sized photos) to Immigration. Be prepared for several visits there and long waits. A good book is your friend, or a tablet for playing games. Oh, men take note - remove your hat! Eventually (hopefully), you will walk away with everything APPROVED.

In our case we opted to hire a facilitator for a turn-key package. Because our Rt 66 trip was during the two month when I would have had to been available for mailing documents back and forth, we got the all the originals and sent the whole thing to Maite Duran of GringoVisas.com. She has an office in Connecticut and is able to handle all the US side there and then it all goes to her office in Cuenca where the process is completed.

I ordered all our originals in mid-July and we sent her our packet in mid-August. We enjoyed our Rt 66 motorcycle trip and by late October received an email from her office that we could get our Visa stamps at the Ecuadorian consulate in Atlanta (the closest to us). Woot!!

Was this the least expensive route? Absolutely not. Was it the most stress-free route? ABSOLUTELY! It was the right one for us.

There are other facilitators in Ecuador who will consult and assist you as well as lawyers who can do the same but Maite was the only one who, at the time, offered a turn-key service. She continues to get recommendations from all who work with her.

So do it yourself or hire someone but do your research regardless. Requirements are know to change on a whim here! ;)

Wednesday, February 12, 2014

Living in Ecuador - What's our budget?

The one question we get asked a lot is "How much does it cost to live there?" Needless to say, this can vary drastically from person to person based upon lifestyle choices. These are just OUR numbers and will change as we live here longer. Unlike most others, we still have US based expenses since we own property there and plan to eventually move back. Property taxes, memberships, scuba insurance and our timeshare, for example. These numbers are NOT included below.

The original budget we developed after our visit here in April-May 2013 was based upon what we saw and heard during our visit as well as what we had read from fellow bloggers living in the same area, Cuenca.

Rent600
Utilities100
Cell/Internet/TV150
Food300
Entertainment200
Transportation100
Medical/Insurance100
US Trip200

1750

Our current budget has been amended to reflect some actual costs and some costs are still projected.

Rent400
Utilities50
Cell/Internet/TV100
Food300
Entertainment150
Transportation75
Medical/Insurance100
Housekeeper50
US Trip200

1425

We originally planned to rent furnished but fell in love with our current unfurnished place so our initial "get settled" costs rose with the cost of furniture and appliances. The bedding and decorations would have been bought in either case.

Our utility estimate is still an estimate but is based upon what our downstairs neighbor is paying for water, electric and propane. Our first tank of propane, used for cooking and hot water, lasted us three weeks and three days. The gas man comes and swaps the empty tank for a full one, all for the cost of $2.50 a tank.

Our cell phone is still pre-paid and we use very little, a couple of dollars a month IF we call outside other Claro (our cell provider) users. The $10 I put on during our first visit still had $4 on it when I recently added another $10. Currently we have free Internet provided by our landlord but it's at a slower speed than we need to get good TV reception and we share it with our downstairs neighbor. We are working on getting our own line installed and then will pay about $60 a month for a higher speed line. The additional costs will come from subscriptions to our VPN provider - Strong VPN, NetFlix and possibly Hulu.

Food is one thing we really don't have a handle on yet so that is still a projected cost. We are still stocking basics like condiments, spices and cleaning supplies. We're hoping February will give us a more accurate number. Finding a little storefront mercado five minutes from home was this week's bonus. Great fruits and veggies there at a lower price will be much better than the supermarket.

Entertainment includes eating out, tours, movies and the like. Transportation has dropped and will continue as we use buses more and taxis less. We are also walking more. We got our bus passes and since I am over 65, my rides are 12.5 cents, Stu's are 25 cents. Still a bargain! Medical and insurance is still a guesstimate as we evaluate various insurance plans. We also haven't bought any prescription medications yet so we anticipate this amount may rise.

We had no real plans to hire a housekeeper but when we ran into one of the maids from Apartmentos Otorongo as she was working at a house a block away (for some other expats), we quickly arranged for her to come and clean for us. She comes every other week and I no longer have to worry about cleaning bathrooms! <insert big grin> She does a lot more (dusting, mopping, cleaning all the nooks and crannies) and is worth every penny. We might have found someone cheaper but this is someone we know and trust implicitly.

Our US trip number is for our annual trip back to the US to see family. I'm pretty sure it won't cover everything but it's a good start. Our first trip will be next August-October and we will see what the numbers really are when that time comes. Airfare, transportation to Guayaquil and back to Cuenca, rental car in Florida, gas to our property in Tennessee and fuel to take the RV to Maryland and back. Food would be bought regardless. Time will tell...

I will take an annual look at this budget here on the blog, maybe more often, not sure. I hope this helps others build their budgets based upon their lifestyle. If you eat out a lot, like to entertain, enjoy gourmet meals and hard liquor or fine wines, then your costs will definitely be higher.


Monday, February 10, 2014

Getting our Visas and Cedulas

One of the most difficult things that needs to be done if you plan to settle in Ecuador is getting a resident Visa. There are several types of Visas that can be applied for: pensioners, professional and investment are the three main choices. We both have pensioners Visas which require documenting an $800 a month minimum income FOR LIFE and $100 per dependent. (Note, we did not go the dependent route since if something happened to the person holding the Visa, the dependent would have to start the whole process over again.)

You can visit for up to 90 days on your US passport and once here you can apply for an extension. Most people do that and apply for their Visa while in Ecuador. More recently people are getting their Visas while still in the US and then just have to get it registered in Ecuador. This is the route we took even though it is more costly.

Why? Two reasons. One - we wanted to know we had everything we needed while we were in the US. What was needed? Original certified copies of birth certificates, marriage licenses (and for me subsequent divorces/death certificates to show my name change trail), income statement from Social Security and criminal background check. Some items had limits on how old they could be (from issue date). Some had to be notarized, most had to have an apostille done by the Secretary of State where they originated.

All the above is more easily secured while in the US. Getting this done while out of the country is MUCH more costly than while in the US and also requires a family member or friend's assistance. Once this is all completed, all documents must be translated into Spanish and then the translated document must be apostilled.

Confused yet? Well, you hit on our number two reason. Removal of stress from the process. I could have done all of the initial, up to the translation step. I could had IF we hadn't already planned to be on our two month motorcycle trip in Sept-Oct 2013. There was no way I could be sending, receiving and handling all the paperwork during that time.

So what to do? We opted to pay more for a turn-key service and hired Maite Duran of Gringo Visas to do it all. We obtained all the original documents, made copies of our passports, got passport photos and sent it all (plus the paperwork required by Gringo Visas ) to the Connecticut office. This was in early August. We gave it no more thought until we got an email from Maite that our Visa stamps were ready to pick up in the Atlanta Ecuadorian Consulate. Stress GONE!

In mid-November we planned a visit to family in Atlanta and made a visit to the consulate where $700 (for Visa fees to the government) and two hours presented us with the necessary stamps in our passports.

Could it have been done for less cost? Absolutely, especially if 1) I had only been married once, 2) we had gotten all the notarizations/apostilles ourselves or 3) one of us had been fluent in Spanish (a huge plus if you are getting your Visas in Ecuador. But the removal of stress from the process was critical to me personally. The move itself is stress enough. And after sitting in the Immigration Office in Cuenca and listening to folks with no Spanish trying to get through the process - well, we made the right choice for us.

So, we arrived in Ecuador with our newly stamped passports, presented ourselves to Immigration at the airport and our arrival was recorded. For the next two years we are allowed no more than 90 days out of country starting on December 12th each year - our arrival date. This shouldn't be an issue, we hope not since there are NO exceptions, not even for medical emergencies or family deaths.

Once in the country, the next step was to get our resident Visas registered with Ecuador. This can only be done IN country. We went to the Cuenca office of Gringo Visas and met our local contact, Carlos, an amazing young man who is one step away from being a lawyer (and that should happen this year) who is also bi-lingual. He prepared all the paperwork we needed for the next steps, accompanied us to get things notarized and advised us what to do and where to go.

We had been told to arrive at the Immigration Office early on December 26th (the date on our paperwork), get a number and wait our turn. We chatted with others from the US and compared notes while we waited. After arriving before 8:00, we got inside at 8:30 and the process actually started at 9:00 when the times were announced for each person. Our time was 10:30 but we ended up getting called about 9:45. The lady spoke decent English although her accent was strong. She took our paperwork and we were told to sit back down. About 10:15 our name was called again. There was a problem.

Fortunately it was a small problem. When one form was filled out at Gringo Visas, two letters were transposed in our email addresses. No changes are allowed on the forms so I was given a blank and redid them by hand. Well, in one section the print was VERY small, so small I had to get our my little magnifying card to read what was there. Needless to say, I had copied it wrong. Another copy of the form was needed. But since I had already been given my one re-do copy, we had to go next door and get our own copy of the form made.

That done, we then had to get another folder since EACH set of paperwork needed it own manilla folder. Preferably one with the paper clamp in the middle. Oh yeah, the little copy/office shop next door sold them. I think by this point we had spent another fifty cents? LOL!

Paperwork done again, we were asked to sit - again. Another hour or so and we heard our names, got up and received our now registered and officially stamped passports! We were then told we would need copies of all three pages for the next step, getting paperwork into the system for our Cedulas (like a national ID card used for EVERYTHING here). We walked out the door, turned left and went up the steps to the copy/office shop and got copies made. (We have since learned that the next step can often be done the same day if you arrive early enough AND everything goes well. Since we were there during the holidays, they were on limited staff and we were told to come back on January 2nd.)

January second arrives and since we were told we could come in anytime, we arrived around 10:30. We showed the guard our paperwork and told him, "Cedula, por favor." He gave us a number and pointed to the opposite side of the room from where we had sat a week earlier. The chairs were full so we stood until we could get a seat. Around noon they were still on number five and we were number fourteen so we did what others were doing, walked down the street to get lunch.

As we walked back we passed the gentleman who was number eleven so we knew we were still okay. We grabbed our seats and waited, and waited, and waited. In the morning we heard rumors they were having trouble with the cashier (each person pays $4 for this step). Several times we saw a supervisor come out to the lobby computer, attach a keyboard, type something and then leave. At 3:30 we were two numbers away from being called - and the supervisor came out and announced that the main system in Quito had crashed. We were all told to come back the next day.

We didn't since we had an appointment with our landlord. Plus, I was concerned that the computer might have problems again. So we waited until the following Tuesday. This time we arrived earlier, before the office opened. We got our number, stood until we could sit, listened to all the rumblings around us and learned that sure enough, the computer had crashed a second time. But this time everything was with us, we were ushered into the office, paperwork entered into the computer, paid our $4 and on our way with another piece of paper by 11:00.

Were we done? Of course not! This paper had to be notarized before it could be presented at the Registro Civil office where we would get our Cedula. Once again, Carlos accompanied us to the appropriate notary spot (different from the first one and MUCH busier but still costing around $5). We spent most of the morning waiting and were extremely thankful for a good translator.

Now were we ready to go to the Registro Civil office? Of course not, it was too late in the day and we wouldn't make it through the lines. So we arranged to meet Carlos there the following week, bringing all our paperwork once again.

When we arrived at the designated time, we didn't see Carlos so we got in line. When he arrived he pulled us out of the line since it wasn't the one we needed. He took us inside, got our paperwork and original passports and waited his turn. Our job was to sit and wait patiently. In an hour or so he made it to the desk, presented our paperwork...and waited. He came to collect a few dollars from us, presented the receipt to the desk...and we waited.

Soon he was back with a number ticket...for Stu. It appeared my paperwork had a glitch. When they scanned the originals at the Immigration office, my factura (invoice/receipt) had stuck to my original form and was scanned that way. Carlos had the original paperwork and felt it shouldn't have been a problem. While Stu waited for his number to be called, Carlos used my phone to call the Ministry office. After a couple of minutes of earnest conversation, he returned and told me it should be fixed by the time Stu got done with getting his Cedula.

Stu's number was called and he went into the cubicle, answered a couple of questions, got fingerprinted, took out his earring and got his photo taken. Done, all he had to do was sit until his name was called. That took about thirty minutes and he was done, the proud recipient of his official Cedula ID card.

Now we waited...and waited...and waited. While we felt the official was stalling to punish Carlos for going over his head, eventually he called him back to the desk. It was all good and soon I was sitting in a cubicle trying to answer questions and calling on Carlos to translate. Another thirty minutes and I was the proud recipient of my own official Cedula ID card - mine showing I was over 65 and entitled to the same benefits as full Ecuadorian citizens over that age: reduced bus pass cost, 50% off airline tickets originating in Ecuador, go to the head of bank lines, take the short line for Immigration at the airport and get up to $150 a month reimbursed from taxes spent/IVA of 12% on most purchases.

The first tip I would pass along - if you don't speak fluent Spanish, hire a translator/facilitator to assist you at the offices. Well worth the money.

The second tip - come prepared to wait, bring a book or a tablet/e-reader. Third tip - arrive early no matter what anyone tells you, even the staff at the office. For immigration, 7:30 and for your Cedula, 8:30 works.

And final tip - be pleasant no matter how frustrated you are. The staff has to deal with hundreds of people a week, paperwork from all countries and in all state of preparation, with people that don't speak the local language and they can get frustrated themselves. Smile, thank them for helping you, compliment their English or anything else you'd like. Just BE POSITIVE!

Saturday, February 8, 2014

Apartment Work Day

We had originally planned to travel into El Centro yesterday to get a few errands done but our friend, Emilio, called in the morning and was available to come out and help Stu install the wire we need for our Etapa Internet line. Our landlord pays for a basic line that we share with our downstairs neighbor. We want to pay for a higher speed line and not bog her down when we are using the Internet intensively (like watching TV). We also need a higher speed to be able to subscribe to services like Hulu and Netflix if we want a good watching experience. While we enjoy our Amazon Prime now, we'd like to see current series from the US, too.

The gentlemen from Etapa, the local Internet provider, came out a couple days ago and showed Stu where their line terminates, two houses down. It's our responsibility to get the wire from there to our termination point inside the house.

Fortunately Emilio is very experienced in construction as well as being our driver and facilitator/translator. He and Stu quickly opened up the little manholes, ran a metal wire through and then pulled our new wire back through. They then ran it up the building to a hidden corner of our living room and over to behind the television.

Etapa is scheduled to arrive next Tuesday to finish the install. We shall see, even in the US those days seem to undulate like an over full bowl of Jell-o. When they are done, then we will have the local specialist come out and configure the router we brought with us, designed to work specifically with Strong VPN services.

Here are some photos from the work today.


Once done with that, he and Stu hung our two big wall hanging rugs in the hallway. We couldn't have done it without him! I can already notice a difference in the echoing there!


Emilio has become so much more than just a driver since we met him in Guayaquil last December. We feel privileged to call him friend!

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